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03 September 2009 @ 08:55 am
Oh American darlings …  
I do feel for you. I have met so many smart, serious and intellectually curious citizens of the United States, and yet your political climate is so filled with people just like this one:

Suddenly the abject lunacy that surrounds health and science debates in your country has a whole new layer of horror attached. And thanks to Jeph Jacques of Questionable Content for the URL.

I'm off to see whether having a sore knee is a good enough excuse for wagging work now that hideous deadline has passed. A few laps of the hall ought to settle my conscience one way or the other.

oldenuf2nboldenuf2nb on September 2nd, 2009 11:06 pm (UTC)
You know, if it weren't that we were being forced to listen to morons just like this one day in and day out, this might be really funny. Unfortunately.... it isn't.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 2nd, 2009 11:10 pm (UTC)
I've been working on a story regarding science education. The horror has crept into my bones. Maybe that's why my knee is so sore?

I found it heartening that it was pointed out by an American and that many of the commenters who know about light and refraction are also obviously Americans. Lots of you are smart, you're all just the employed ones who have a degree of dignity and so are busier and quieter.
Meredyth: Huh?meredyth_13 on September 2nd, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, interwebs, you are full of the funneh!

There's no monopoly on ignorance, although this is a very specialised kind - where there is definitely knowledge, but somehow the vital bit is just missing. I think it's the righteous outrage implicit in the commentary that amused me most.

I have managed moments of amazing stupidity in my time, but fortunately I have (for the most part) managed to isolate them to private moments with trusted friends (and alcohol), and not blazoned them across the aether for the mockery of the masses.

blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 2nd, 2009 11:37 pm (UTC)
It was her certainty that scared me. And yes, there is certainly no monopoly on idiocy. Had she been English I would have suggested that she explained some council election results -- BNP??!! And if Australian, well, I'd be hard pressed to choose these days. (If a Kiwi, she'd have been one of those who has the fences covered in neat printed words about government conspiracies.)
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Loyaulte Me Lie: killshocolate on September 2nd, 2009 11:31 pm (UTC)
*bites off my own leg to escape from the planet*
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 2nd, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
It's not that bad. A vast majority of Americans are smarter than this. But her kind is loud and pops up all over the place.
Mockingbird Q: days like thismockingbirdq on September 2nd, 2009 11:49 pm (UTC)
Oh my everlovin' God. Where was this woman during her high school science classes? Heck, even my five year old has played with prisms and will purposefully create rainbows using the water hose.

Just insane, that anyone is that ignorant. And damn frightening!
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:36 am (UTC)
I know! But people like her reassure me a bit in a way. Whenever I see the crazies with their 'Nazi health policies' rants on telly, I think 'Oh yeah, one of those Americans', and take comfort in the fact that they are a small if very loud group.

Though I have to say that the general level of science education and understanding around the world is nothing like what it should be, and can't work out if it's because of bad teaching or bad journalism.
libby_drew on September 2nd, 2009 11:52 pm (UTC)
*dies* Is that real? My kids are rofl right now. Maybe that was someone trying to be funny. One can hope, right?
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:37 am (UTC)
Nah, she's the woman who was at the Barney Frank town hall meeting. They're out there and they're loud, but I think your kids are more representative of the real America, so wish that your media would stop focussing on lunatics like her.
Seshetasesheta_66 on September 2nd, 2009 11:55 pm (UTC)
It boggles the mind.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:38 am (UTC)
And 20 years ago, that wouldn't have happened!
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Robyn: thoughtfultimeasmymeasure on September 3rd, 2009 12:05 am (UTC)

I don't even-what?
Sadly this is the state of general knowledge, and the politicians appeal to this base and raise them into a frenzy over issues they've no comprehension on.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:41 am (UTC)
Yes, that's the thing that drives me crazy. I know that 9/10 Americans are sane and smart (even though science education around the world is a bit dismal, but that's another rant). But so often you see policy made and conveyed as a reaction to lunatics like her. When the woman with the Nazi Health Policies poster and her ilk started ranting at health care reform meetings, even Democrats started talking about abandoning public heath care. The pollies should all have just treated them like the idiots they are, hurrah for Barney Frank!
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Ann: eyetsosh on September 3rd, 2009 12:21 am (UTC)
This is a great examples of how conspiracy theories work - use big scientific words, speak with righteous indignation on behalf of all mankind, and blame the mysterious "them".

Have you seen this video? After that, nothing surprises me.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:50 am (UTC)
YES! You're exactly right. And OH GOD! The Chaser team were very naughty boys with CNNNN. To be fair to the people interviewed, most of them just seemed to have gone to bad schools and probably watch bad TV media (which is SO bad in he US that I have been banned from watching it by my friends as I throw things at their televisions. Except for PBS, which is mostly good). That Mason hater, on the other hand ...
parallel parking prodigy: i can see russia from my house!empress_jae on September 3rd, 2009 12:47 am (UTC)
i'm so embarrassed, and i haven't even watched it. *sigh*
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:51 am (UTC)
It's all right, I know most of you aren't like that and just wish politicians would stop reacting to the ones who are.
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romaine24romaine24 on September 3rd, 2009 01:37 am (UTC)
Someday when we meet and have a drink or four I'll tell you about my first experience with fireflies when I was 22 and had moved from California to New Hampshire.

Thanks for sharing!!!
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:52 am (UTC)
I think it's always fine to be a bit boggled by fauna. My response to the platypus may or may not have involved a little squeal, and my two friends decided on the Great Western Beachside Squirrel before someone told them they had in fact seen a chipmunk.
Samena: Draco WTF by Potterpuffssamena on September 3rd, 2009 03:44 am (UTC)
Seriously?! I'm assuming this woman has lived in California for a while, which is a state that uses a LOT of water for irrigation and all sorts of things, and yet she's NEVER seen an effect like this before? I knew about this stuff when I was a toddler (though not in scientific terms, of course). It's really odd.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 03:53 am (UTC)
Some people are just stupid. Which would be fine, except that US governments have a history of pandering to them.

I'll say one thing for Kevin Rudd, he just talks to them earnestly about why they're a bit misguided until they begin to fall asleep ...
Anna Fugazzi: Failureannafugazzi on September 3rd, 2009 05:18 am (UTC)
So... what was responsible for the freaky rainbows???? Because we have got to get to the bottom of this!!1! Why doesn't anybody care any more what happens to our Constitutional Rights?!11!

Personally I think we really need to look at the socialist Homosexualists. This really sounds like the sort of thing they try to do while we are all distracted by the Global climate Hoax!!

Thanks for posting this! I'll spred the word!!!!!!
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 07:40 am (UTC)
Rainbow flags. Do we need to look any further?
Cerise: PB Stephen Discoverwivern on September 3rd, 2009 05:43 am (UTC)
I kinda like the idea of rainbow oozing out of the ground. *g*

Sometimes people scare me.

blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 07:54 am (UTC)
That does sound nice, you're right.

Be not afraid, just as long as we can convince more politicians to ignore people like that, the rest of us will be fine. I miss normal sensible dumb people who used to say 'I have no idea. Whatever.' In the days of the internet they seem to have all disappeared.
Shivshiv5468 on September 3rd, 2009 07:36 am (UTC)
You'd never get that over here.

The sun doesn't shine long enough for the pretty rainbows.

Why doesn't she assume it's a sign of god's covenant with her put into the sprinkler rather than a government plot. Has she no faith?
blamebramptonblamebrampton on September 3rd, 2009 07:39 am (UTC)
You know, I would actually think better of her if she did. It's the automatic leap to conspiracy theory that exasperates me. That and the fact she has obviously spent the last several decades paying no attention whatsoever to the world ...
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prone to mischieftreacle_tartlet on September 3rd, 2009 09:40 am (UTC)
Is it just me, or does this loon sound a lot like Berta from Two And A Half Men?
Ah, now I can explain it all away. Berta made the video to freak out Jake.
I feel much safer in the cocoon of my little fiction...