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19 October 2009 @ 08:00 pm
I used to make decisions ...  
But then an article on the internet convinced me of the benefit of cloud decision making ;-)

Poll #1473195 Brammers' Summer Holiday

You should fly via

Singapore
12(26.1%)
Dubai
14(30.4%)
Hong Kong
9(19.6%)
Frankfurt
11(23.9%)

You should definitely choose

Heathrow
23(54.8%)
Gatwick
4(9.5%)
I made the selection above based on my expectations of the comedy of your whining afterwards
3(7.1%)

You can TOTALLY do Paris/Antwerp/Paris in a day on the train!

Yes!
15(33.3%)
No!
12(26.7%)
What is happening in your brain that you ask such a thing?
18(40.0%)

A cheaper flight, arriving at a much better time, is worth losing out on frequent flyer points for

Yes
38(80.9%)
No
1(2.1%)
Just join yet another loyalty programme
8(17.0%)
I have convinced myself that two and a bit weeks is more than enough time for a quick Sydney/London/Paris holiday given that I want to see only about 15 people, 10 museums and 13 shops. This involves me talking myself out of running away to Oxford. Totally doable. I need to lose weight anyway, and so steamed veg can be consumed for a few months in order to pay for such frivolity! It will be FINE!

ETA: I have to say that all rational decisions may be overturned by the fact that Emirates has a standard 30kg baggage allowance. BOOKS! BOOKS!

And it IS humanly possible to have a daytrip to Antwerp with enough time to visit the museums I want to do a run through, and a quick chocolate shop. Possible, but probably not advisable ...
 
 
 
nahimanaemerald_dragon8 on October 19th, 2009 09:16 am (UTC)
Oh, you're going to have so much fun! I am so jealous, I miss England. And for me Hong Kong was a great stopover point because it was so central (Sydney - Hong Kong should be about 11 hours, and then Hong Kong to London should be about 12). I don't know about the others, though! And Hong Kong airport was really easy for me to navigate, too.

What airline are you thinking of going with? I flew with Air NZ and they were fab, friends have done Thai airways and liked it, and I did Qantas to San Fran and it was AWFUL.

I still have to wait over a year before I can go back. :(
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 09:37 am (UTC)
Yes, I do like Hong Kong! Calm and clean and with loads of power points and free wifi!

Still debating the airline. Qantas is good for points, Emirates is spectacular for luggage allowance (and Halal or Kosher food: no pig! (I'm allergic)) and Singapore and Air NZ are both in the running, too. This is why I turned to the internet in hopes of narrowing too many decisions!

I did Qantas to San Fran years ago and it WAS awful! At least they're consistent ;-)
Casaella_irene on October 19th, 2009 09:16 am (UTC)
I have done Bruges to Cologne in an afternoon, and Lille to Bruges takes about an hour and a half, and I think, from reading the train timetable, that Lille to Antwerp isn't that much longer. Totally doable!
Casaella_irene on October 19th, 2009 09:22 am (UTC)
Have talked to my mother. Paris-Brussels,Brussels-Antwerp would be doable. And you can look at bahn.de for train timetables!
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george pushdragonpushdragon on October 19th, 2009 09:16 am (UTC)
Changi has free internet, a Guylian cafe (slightly better service), little machines you can put your feet in for a massage, and a butterfly garden, and you have to ask????

From my recent experience in London, only do a one-day international trip if the rewards are incontrovertibly unsurpassable. In my case, they SO were. But Antwerp??
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 09:23 am (UTC)
Antwerp is the Barcelona of the North! Well, in truth, it is the home of a dozen or so paintings I would like to spend some time studying. But I can do that next year. Unless the unthinkable happens and I grow bored of Paris and want to get away for a day. Probability of 2% there.

Changi is splendid, but Dubai has Emirates with a 100 minute layover (long enough to not be rushed, short enough to not be fussed) and a 30kg economy baggage allowance. I CAN BUY BOOKS! Not that that is the deciding factor in any of my adventures. Not at all.
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Pureblood Princessraitala on October 19th, 2009 09:25 am (UTC)
Bloody cat just deleted my comment, walking across my tablet!

I was just going to say, if you have one thing you want to do in Antwerp, a museum... *looks up and sees reference to museums plural*
Ok, two museums and a quick chocolate shop will be a long and full day out, but doable. If you want to do more you'll need to spend a night I think.

Gatwick is seriously a long way from London, whereas Heathrow is 15 mins on Heathrow Express (when it is running and in practice 30 mins, because you have to wait for a train) or about 45mins-1hour on the Piccadilly line, which has the advantage of only costing the price of a tube ticket.

When ya coming, when ya coming?
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 09:31 am (UTC)
Yes, Heathrow is certainly superior. But it might be worth the bleagh of Gatwick for the joy of an Emirates baggage allowance. And one of my friends who I actually have to visit lives out that way, so I could go straight there and make it look as though I value her more than anyone else, rather than begrudgingly training out her way and resenting a lost afternoon.

Second week of December, leaving just in time to get home for Christmas!
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Gossgossymer on October 19th, 2009 09:42 am (UTC)
Dubai's duty free shopping in the airport is awesome and there's a lot of new stuff going on there (the air train thingies started up just last month!) And fall/winter is the best time to be there really :D
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 10:03 am (UTC)
Hurrah! Thanks for the heads-up, I've never come through Dubai, but the 30kg economy allowance may well be enough to convince me the squishy Emirates economy class seats are worthwhile. I am pretty short, after all ...
Catscatsintheattic on October 19th, 2009 09:54 am (UTC)
If you fly via Frankfurt and have time between flights, there is no chance that you will escape me. Unless you fly on a day when I definitely have to work.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 10:01 am (UTC)
HEE! That was my secret tricksy reason for putting Frankfurt in as an option! Alas, it is looking as though Dubai might be the winning option, however, next October, we have a few days put aside for travelling through Germany and we will be stealing you!
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shu_shu_sleeps: Manga deathshu_shu_sleeps on October 19th, 2009 10:08 am (UTC)
I say blah blah fishcakes to a measley 30k luggage allowance - that's why they invited the Royal Mail :)

Have a FABULOUS time - and don't forget to send me a postcard......
blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 02:36 pm (UTC)
Alas, the Royal Mail is now expensive! That extra 10kg is worth at least $400 each way ;-) I will and I won't, but you will be back before I go.
AutumnHearti_autumnheart on October 19th, 2009 02:26 pm (UTC)
Sydney-Singapore (or Hong-Kong) should be about 8 hours, and Asia-London just over 12; if you can get a Dubai stop, instead, that should be a bit more in the middle.

I'd be very surprised if anything stopping at Frankfurt didn't *also* stop at Singapore: you'll need a refuel long before then.

blamebramptonblamebrampton on October 19th, 2009 02:34 pm (UTC)
Qantas was alleging this was the case, which led me to believe that they were either lying, or flying A380s in a very odd fashion!
Dedicated Escape Artist: Snape Toonjadzialove on October 19th, 2009 02:58 pm (UTC)
I chose Dubai because I know it's beautiful there. It all sounds so very exotic to me! Someday, Canada will not be the only other country I've ventured into, I swear. I do wish you were coming this way, I have to say, though maybe my someday will take me your way...
clovis_tclovis_t on October 19th, 2009 05:03 pm (UTC)
If you're planning on running around Europe by train, definitely have a look at Eurail passes, or purchase your tickets at least a month or two in advance. Train tickets in Europe vary wildly in price, mostly depending on how far in advance you book.

Four hours on a train isn't bad; all the European trains I've been on have been roomy, comfortable, and very easy to sleep on. Therefore a 4 hour train trip for 3 hours of museum tripping is probably worth it, especially as you'll get to see lots of good scenery on the way (even if it is a bit flat, there'll still be European villages).

I flew with Korean air via Seoul-Incheon, and it was actually very good (apart from the planes being rather late, but no big deal). No idea what their luggage policy is though, I was limiting myself to what Ryanair will not charge insane amounts for (i.e. not much).
glorafinglorafin on October 19th, 2009 06:01 pm (UTC)
You can totally do Paris/Antwerp/Paris in one day, of course you can... but then you'll stay in Antwerp for like 3 hours (if trains are on time). Can't you afford to spend a night there?

(That said, I live less than two hours away from Antwerp and I never went so what do I know? :)
lyraslyras on October 19th, 2009 11:55 pm (UTC)
Only stop in Dubai if you get a really good deal with Emirates. Wandering around their huge and useless airport after a long flight, while waiting to get on another long flight, is no fun at all!

Also, as someone who is still recovering from pneumonia contracted ENTIRELY through spending three weeks dashing around Europe trying to catch up with lots of people, I shall wag my finger at you and say, "Be careful!"
Kareinakareina on October 20th, 2009 03:21 am (UTC)
I vote for the European options, because then there is a chance that we can meet up somewhere whilst you are here. But then, I'm biased in that I happen to really enjoy your company. Perhaps even as much as I enjoy reading your writing...
It's a Deensedeensey on October 20th, 2009 05:46 am (UTC)
What part of the word Summer goes with the words Dubai, Hong Kong and Singapore?
This Girl: Rawrthisgirl_is on October 20th, 2009 08:29 pm (UTC)
"...I want to see only about 15 16 people..."

Fixed that for you!

Unless you're heading for the South East of England, Gatwick is an almighty pain in the arse to get to/from. If that's where you're going, it should be fine. I figure airports are pretty much as bad as each other anyway.

I got a cheap as chips flight with Royal Brunei, but it's a puddle jumper: London-Dubai-Brunei-Brisbane-Auckland. I'm pretty sure we won't even be getting off the plane at Dubai and Brisbane, but at around £700 who's complaining?