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21 August 2009 @ 10:53 pm
Clearing up a common confusion  
This is a nation with SOCIALISED medicine:


This is a nation with SOCIALIST medicine: 


SOCIALISED =/=
SOCIALIST

and, just to be absolutely clear,
SOCIALIZED =/= SOCIALIST

Please feel free to print this out and distribute it if you find yourself listening to the sort of people that have seen me screaming at the news coverage all week.

I swear, if I was an American and some of the Libertarian loonies leading 'community' concerns came to my door, I would scream: 'COMMUNIST CONCERNS?? AIEEEEE! Fetch me the shotgun, Fido! Time to shoot me some trespassing Reds!'

Admittedly, this raises the questions why an American me would have a dog trained in gun fetching, and speak like Christopher Walken taking the piss, but let's just move on.
 
 
 
Pureblood Princessraitala on August 21st, 2009 01:30 pm (UTC)
If Brammers were an American...the mind boggles.

Speaking of cultural idiosyncrasies, Google Translator translates the Finnish word 'rahvaanomainen' (usually translated as common or vulgar) as 'non-U'. LOL! Not, I think a totally mainstream translation :D
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 21st, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
I KNEW Nancy Mitford had faked her own death!

An American asked me to marry him once. I'm still a wee bit afraid ...
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Rose: Facepalm Harryfourth_rose on August 21st, 2009 01:32 pm (UTC)
Given that these people use the insults "nazi" and "communist" interchangeably, I doubt explanations will help...

Of course, I say that as a diehard socialist who knows what the term means ;-)
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 21st, 2009 01:35 pm (UTC)
I have decided to embrace Barney Frank and loudly declare 'It's like arguing with a dining table!' when such idiotic attempts at rhetoric are trotted out.

Where are the intelligent conservatives of yesteryear?
(no subject) - fourth_rose on August 21st, 2009 01:43 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - blamebrampton on August 21st, 2009 01:50 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Nienna: The Moon and the Yew Treeniennas_gift on August 21st, 2009 01:59 pm (UTC)
Don't get me started. No seriously. Don't. get. me. started. My country has some of the most ignorant - and dangerous - people of anywhere I can imagine. If this health care legislation doesn't pass, I will be unspeakably pissed off.

Don't you love how we fling around terms we don't understand?
Pureblood Princessraitala on August 21st, 2009 02:03 pm (UTC)
Yeah, well, everyone knows accuracy is just gay! ;)
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(no subject) - ladyjaneva on August 21st, 2009 05:23 pm (UTC) (Expand)
oldenuf2nboldenuf2nb on August 21st, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
I love you so hard right now, you know that, right?

Here's the problem for us American's. White, over middle-aged, undereducated sheep posing as conservatives=/=intelligent. Like Barney Frank said; it's like trying to have a conversation with the dining room table.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 21st, 2009 03:03 pm (UTC)
It's mutual.

And yes, I notice that Libertarians are more than happy to use roads, the internet and other govt-funded items. Hypocrites!
rickey_arickey_a on August 21st, 2009 02:25 pm (UTC)
Quotes the Gospel"

blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 21st, 2009 03:02 pm (UTC)
hee! Alas, like so much satire, so true ...
trichinopoly ash: edward: bitch you know i be dazzlin'aldehyde on August 21st, 2009 03:54 pm (UTC)
brammers, i love you. i know you're aware of this already, but i just had to reiterate it.

i'd love to link this in my next post if that's okay?
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:21 pm (UTC)
Love you too, dear! And you are always welcome to link to here.
Kajagr8fae on August 21st, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC)
Although this is very useful in general, do you think you could put together a more comprehensive booklet? *smiles winningly*
shu_shu_sleepsshu_shu_sleeps on August 21st, 2009 11:13 pm (UTC)
I can see it now - Brammer's Pictorial Dixtionary of Words People Stuff Up. Please please please Brmmers - you have to write this..... I'll come to Sydney and type it for you or feed you copious amounts of red wine and cook and everything.....
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Seshetasesheta_66 on August 21st, 2009 04:45 pm (UTC)
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:23 pm (UTC)
*mwah!*
emansil_08 on August 21st, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, the situation here has become so ludicris and asinine I can't bear to watch, listen, or even read anymore.

we bitch and bitch about how the cost of health care is keeping us from doing anything we enjoy, including eating and when someone wants to do something about it, we start screaming socialism, socialism. Jeez give me a fucking break.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:24 pm (UTC)
And yet they do all their screaming on the internet, a government funded initiative that relies on a community of networks. I assume the irony is lost ...
spark_of_chaosspark_of_chaos on August 21st, 2009 05:12 pm (UTC)
God forbid you even say the c-word for fear somebody would convert or something and spread the condition.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:25 pm (UTC)
It's so funny to hear a fandom person say c-word and not mean cock ...
(no subject) - ladyjaneva on August 23rd, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC) (Expand)
ladyjanevaladyjaneva on August 21st, 2009 05:28 pm (UTC)
I guess I'm still naive?
But I don't get how people can get the two mixed up.

And even if someone is in favour of socialism or *gasp* communism: we've had communist politicians since forever, and their parties have just as many nutcases as the other ones. One of our biggest party is socialist, they've run the country and didn't do worse than the christian democrats. Different political ideas, but how can one honestly think that those people are automatically evil?

I don't understand it.

My mom believes in God and is a socialist to the core, mixed with a bit of communism. And boy does she have some scary sides to her, but those are not it.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC)
I can't work out if the Americans who do it are sincerely that naive or just being disingenuous twats. But yes, you would think they would look at the rest of the world and see how it worked, but no, apparently not.
(no subject) - ladyjaneva on August 23rd, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC) (Expand)
brinianbrinian on August 21st, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
Well, I was going to comment, but all of my fellows above have done such a good job of saying what I would like to say that I'm going to fall back on what they say at the Friends' Meeting in such a situation:

"The Friend speaks my mind"

(thank you fourth_rose, niennas_gift and sarcasticpixie for saving me some typing :-)
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
I have always wanted to attend a Friends' Meeting, the level of civilisation seems very high!
feralcheryl on August 21st, 2009 10:21 pm (UTC)
oh sweety, I feel for you. I have utterly avoided the debate for fear of my head popping. I can't possibly allow myself to think that a nation thinks healthcare for the poor is bad.
Your job, dearest Brammers, doesn't allow you the luxury of head and sand. And your social conscience is a good deal pointier than mine. Poor poppet.
Watch some fire fly, have a cuppa, purl some, plain some.

PS we're coming back to Sinney rool soon now- bring on newtown coffee
shu_shu_sleepsshu_shu_sleeps on August 21st, 2009 11:15 pm (UTC)
So - just as I begin to plot my visit to Melbourne in late November/early December - you WON'T BE THERE *sobs*
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Dedicated Escape Artist: Peter Headachejadzialove on August 22nd, 2009 01:58 am (UTC)
*loves this*

Ignorance seems to be contagious.

Sheep. That's what people are. And I pinpoint the ignorance to the moment the republican party hitched their wagons to likes of Jerry Falwell... I suppose that's another argument, but it is the birthplace of blind, uninformed/misinformed outrage from the "regular" folks.

That and Faux Fox News.

blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:29 pm (UTC)
I just can't believe they're the regular folks, though. To my mind, you are regular folks. I feel convinced that most Americans are normal and think, you're just not very loud ...
grey_hunter on August 22nd, 2009 06:26 am (UTC)
Hey, Christopher Walken is awsome. And why not SOCIALIZT? If we go American, I mean.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:30 pm (UTC)
HEE! Give them time and they will certainly be spelling it like that!

Walken is awesome, but I am sure that he would run screaming at me impersonating him.
Cearesceares on August 22nd, 2009 04:22 pm (UTC)
*psst* All of our dogs are trained in gun fetching! I actually cringe and laugh my ass off a the same time(it's either that or cry) when I see clips from the town hall meetings.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
I have had dogs that were trained to fetch the things that had been shot (my uncles were murder on birds, literally), but not to fetch the guns themselves ...

I feel sympathy. We know most Americans are sane, really!
(no subject) - ceares on August 24th, 2009 06:21 am (UTC) (Expand)
pingridpingrid on August 22nd, 2009 07:04 pm (UTC)
I despair of people. Socialist/socialised is bad enough, but where does the socialist/nazi/communist confusion come from? Well, it was called the N_S_DAP ... So THAT'S what the Wannsee Conference was all about: a final solution to the healthcare question. How can so many historians have been so wrong? *rolls eyes so hard they risk getting stuck looking into head*
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
I keep reminding myself that it is a small minority of Americans. A loud, stupid, small minority.
Robyn: peacearobynsung on August 23rd, 2009 04:43 am (UTC)
Oh my goodness, THIS!!
It's sad how many people don't know this!!
I can't believe how this health care debate has been skewed.
blamebramptonblamebrampton on August 23rd, 2009 04:32 pm (UTC)
I feel that most must, but the loudest seem to have missed school that day.

Fingers crossed that sane debate soon returns to your public life!
Kirininkirinin on August 24th, 2009 03:52 am (UTC)
Funny, I was just reading about that on The Onion. Of course, the Onion mocks all, regardless of political orientation:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/congress_deadlocked_over_how_to

-K